Obama claims Greed is Leading Cause of Amputations

I want to thank Yukio for posting about Obama claiming Greed is the reason doctor’s prefer to perform amputation.  When I first heard this, I kept saying “no way, there is no way this man said this.”  Well, he did – less than 6 months ago. And we’re listening to this man?  No wonder he thinks there is a crisis – no wonder he’s willing to gut the whole health care industry.  This man thinks our doctors are greedy butchers, more interested in cash than providing correct treatment.

Old-Man-Tex

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5 Responses

  1. You completely misstate this. He never says anything about greed being a leading cause for amputation. You, quite incorrectly, draw that from what he DID say, which is that we should be reimbursing doctors more for preventative care than what we are, and that there is a disparity between preventative care, and care after it’s too late.
    In fact, the same doctors would not even be performing both, so doing nothing until amputation is the only option would benifit the doctor doing nothing… nothing! How, then, could “greed” be the cause of amputation in the scenario that President Obama laid out in clear and plain language? President Obama (not B-O. Have some respect for the office (rank) if not for the man, soldier)
    I can’t believe we shared the same military and I have to explain this to you.

    • As Reid said ‘you are entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts” – the man consistently portrays the health industry as being greed driven, and then continues with his own diatribe of how it is only his administration which can solve this “crisis”, and not the free-market.

      Second, when I call him B-O, I do this because of my respect for the office. I do not ever want to write “The President is a blooming idiot”. As I respect the Presidency, I would much rather say “B-O is a blooming idiot”. Third – the fact that a person holds the office of the Presidency does not entitle the person to be above question, or complaint. Wrong political system – Kings get that, Commissars and Fuehers, expected it, but not in this system.

      And sir – it is precisely because I served in the military that I believe I understand the difference between a society with liberty, and one with political speech restrictions. As for “sharing the military with me” – we didn’t “share” – we “served”. As for it bothering you, well, I canna do much about that. Good luck – have fun – and remember, you’re free today, but maybe not tomorrow.

      Old-Man-Tex

    • CL– We meet again in the world of WordPress blogs.

      You write: “He never says anything about greed being a leading cause for amputation.”

      True. Instead Obama merely implied that doctors would allow diabetics to go untreated for the potential pay-off of more money.

      Obama’s quote: “All I’m saying is let’s take the example of something like diabetes, one of—a disease that’s skyrocketing, partly because of obesity, partly because it’s not treated as effectively as it could be. Right now if we paid a family—if a family care physician works with his or her patient to help them lose weight, modify diet, monitors whether they’re taking their medications in a timely fashion, they might get reimbursed a pittance. But if that same diabetic ends up getting their foot amputated, that’s $30,000, $40,000, $50,000—immediately the surgeon is reimbursed. Well, why not make sure that we’re also reimbursing the care that prevents the amputation, right? That will save us money.”

      Never mind the fact that Obama’s dead wrong by a mile about the amount of money that’s paid. Medicare pays between $740 and $1,140 for a leg amputation.

      The American College of Surgeons responded here to Obama’s ill-informed allegations: http://www.facs.org/news/obama081209.html The Medicare reimbursement price for amputations is contained in that document.

      BTW, how does reimbursing doctors with monetary bribes… um, I mean, incentives… to follow federal govt. guidelines on medical procedures and policies (also implied by the statement and contained within both versions of the “health care” bill passed by the House and within two of the Senate bills– I personally read all four of these bills) in lieu of their own experience and individual diagnosis, save us money? In fact, is that what doctors should do? …save money for the govt. at the cost of a patient’s health and well being? That’s what happened in Mass. Go figure.

      You write: “In fact, the same doctors would not even be performing both, so doing nothing until amputation is the only option would benifit the doctor doing nothing… nothing!”

      All this proves is that you demonstrate more knowledge about medical payments and procedures than Obama does. Obama’s own inane, mixed-up, and false example amply demonstrates his personal ignorance on the matter. He doesn’t know– but he has an axe to grind.

      As is clear in the context of Obama’s statement, and as Old-Man-Tex points out in his response to you, Obama’s entire astroturfed Portsmouth “town hall” was aimed at portraying the health industry as greed driven. Obama’s inaccurate and ham-fisted example of amputations cannot be taken in any other context. The implication is clear– doctors have monetary incentives to use expensive treatments on patients.

      Oh, but it’s just an analogy, right? I mean that’s your argument, correct? Well isn’t Obama supposed to be a genius orator or something? Yet, he can’t come up with an analogy that holds water or is factually even in the ballpark or reality… Yep. He’s a real genius alright. Or is Obama intentionally attempting to mislead us with a false analogy that doesn’t stand up under any scrutiny or work as 1 to 1 example to demonstrate his point? Which is it?

      Sorry for the length of this comment Old-Man-Tex.

      • No need to apologize for the length of your post – it was an excellent read! And thanks for having my back – folks like CL just don’t like it when the obvious implications of B-O’s statements are examined and the fallacies pointed out.

        Again – I enjoy reading your responses as well as your Blog – keep driving it!

        Old-Man-Tex

  2. To the point and written well, I appreciate for the post

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